Curse

Stur · Aug 08, 2005, 03:05 PM // 15:05

They should remove them from the game and fire the guy that came up with the idea. I mean no one likes them, The PvP people think they suck, and Me as a PvE person think they suck because the ONLY thing left to do after you beat the game is to collect elites, and I'm perfectly cool with doing that, it's fun hunting them down. BUT having to grind Exp for days for one more skill point is total BS. I’ve got 4 20th with all their skill points used up and I’ve resorted to deleting them 1 by one and releveling 1 by 1 because as lame and boring as that is it much faster to build up skill points doing that than trying to grind out more post 20 level. Something needs to be done

/rant

Loved by guildwars fans. · Aug 08, 2005, 03:09 PM // 15:09

Welcome to five months ago.

Stur · Aug 08, 2005, 03:10 PM // 15:10

Hahahah so I leveled slow and took my time, so sue me

ManadartheHealer · Aug 08, 2005, 03:11 PM // 15:11

I use my Mo/W for farming, and get a new skill point on him about every hour or so of farming.

It's not really a problem for me

Loved by guildwars fans. · Aug 08, 2005, 03:12 PM // 15:12

Well you're not the first to complain about it, and you won't be the last. Don't plan on it being changed ever.

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Originally Posted by ManadartheHealer

I use my Mo/W for farming, and get a new skill point on him about every hour or so of farming.

It's not really a problem for me

So only 475 hours of grind then, right? Doing that for about 500 hours sounds like a lot of fun.

Drakron · Aug 08, 2005, 03:19 PM // 15:19

Remenber, Guilds Wars is about skill and not hours spend.

QuixotesGhost · Aug 08, 2005, 03:20 PM // 15:20

Just hit FoW on a regular basis with your guild.

ManadartheHealer · Aug 08, 2005, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by Loved by guildwars fans.

So only 475 hours of grind then, right? Doing that for about 500 hours sounds like a lot of fun.

Your math is off...

Loved by guildwars fans. · Aug 08, 2005, 03:23 PM // 15:23

You said it takes an hour or so to get a skill point on your W/Mo, that would mean it should take 475 hours or so to get all of the skills in the game. How was my math off? Because I rounded it to 500 in the second sentance?

White Designs · Aug 08, 2005, 03:24 PM // 15:24

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Originally Posted by Drakron

Remenber, Guilds Wars is about skill and not hours spend.

I hope you're being sarcastic. All the skill in the world isn't going to make you useful to your team running that premade Paladin build in Tombs or GvG.

Onito · Aug 08, 2005, 03:29 PM // 15:29

i like skill points

i think its a great idea with emote and the hole system, but high rank doesnt mean u are good ^^ there are rank 1 ppl better then rank 5!

Eder · Aug 08, 2005, 03:32 PM // 15:32

Yes, I'm sure the game is totally not enjoyable since you can't get every single skill after playing an hour a day for three months.

Seriously, this is just like the guy who said "monks aren't worth it because sup runes are too expensive!" and the half a billion people who say "this game is a grind because it takes 500 hours of farming to get FoW armor which I don't need!"

I've leveled two characters to level 20 so far, and each of them is only about 8-12 skills short of a full (two professions) set. And I'm not even halfway done with UW/FoW quests yet (and no, I don't farm at all either), so I suspect that by the time I finish those quests I should be only missing 5 skills on each or so... and it's not like a full set minus 5 skills isn't enough to counter any build you will ever run into. You don't need to have a full skillset for the game to make sense.

Sunrazor · Aug 08, 2005, 03:36 PM // 15:36

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Originally Posted by ManadartheHealer

I use my Mo/W for farming, and get a new skill point on him about every hour or so of farming.

It's not really a problem for me

If that's not a problem for you, I'd hate to see what is a problem for you...

Myself, I find hunting down elites to be pretty fun. I've never been one to try to complete a game 100% before, but I'm actually trying that in Guild Wars. I finally understand the Pokemon "got to get 'em all" thing. The problem is that it now takes about a half hour to an hour of farming to get a skill point. I'm down to needing two elites and about two dozen trainer skills. The amount of time it's going to take me to get them is pretty annoying.

twicky_kid · Aug 08, 2005, 03:59 PM // 15:59

they are not dumb. i rushed my ele to drok at lvl 5 and discovered why they are there.

no skill points i couldn't buy the highers skills and go own the lower lvls. i think it is an exellent idea to keep the game in balance (as much as possible).

every time there is some that is there for balance issues people always complain about. if there were no skill points and you could aquire skill just by paying for then you'd be harping that the skills are too easy to get and i'm getting owned in the lower arenas.

Diomedes · Aug 08, 2005, 04:05 PM // 16:05

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Myself, I find hunting down elites to be pretty fun. I've never been one to try to complete a game 100% before, but I'm actually trying that in Guild Wars. I finally understand the Pokemon "got to get 'em all" thing. The problem is that it now takes about a half hour to an hour of farming to get a skill point. I'm down to needing two elites and about two dozen trainer skills. The amount of time it's going to take me to get them is pretty annoying.

Seriously, the fastest way to do it is to:

a) farm gold with your first character
b) pay for runs through the whole game with your second character
c) use your second character to unlock skills
d) delete the character and goto (a)

I discovered that getting rushed through the game would net me ~20-30 skill points easily which could then be used for capping. It's less exciting than UW runs, but far faster.

-Diomedes

ComMan · Aug 08, 2005, 04:23 PM // 16:23

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

they are not dumb. i rushed my ele to drok at lvl 5 and discovered why they are there.

no skill points i couldn't buy the highers skills and go own the lower lvls. i think it is an exellent idea to keep the game in balance (as much as possible).

every time there is some that is there for balance issues people always complain about. if there were no skill points and you could aquire skill just by paying for then you'd be harping that the skills are too easy to get and i'm getting owned in the lower arenas.

Are you stupid? Once people have been rushed to Forge they have it on the map. They can solo the Ascolon Creatures with their maxed armor and easily get the skill points to get those skills. Thanks a bunch skill points, the low level arenas are safe now.

Why do you think there are a few dozen threads complaining about elites/forge armor in Ascolon/Shiverpeak arena?

twicky_kid · Aug 08, 2005, 04:30 PM // 16:30

if the points weren't there it would take them less time to jump into the arena. it doesn't solve the problem but it does stem it somewhat. you can't stop that unless you put a lvl req on the armor. even that wouldn't stop it because now people would have less resistance to the ubber skills they have from capping. the should close the running to forge or just add a few mes in key spots so you have to walk by them. the archanist will ruin your run easily.

Loved by guildwars fans. · Aug 08, 2005, 04:42 PM // 16:42

I can honestly say that a lot of people who have quit would still be playing if there weren't skill points. It would actually make the game... Fun! I'm sure no one would complain if they increased the PvE skill points you get at level 20 by fifteen, and if they increased faction by fifteen.

MSecorsky · Aug 08, 2005, 04:43 PM // 16:43

They should just add a skill point for every bonus completion, like the mission completions.

ManadartheHealer · Aug 08, 2005, 04:44 PM // 16:44

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Originally Posted by Loved by guildwars fans.

You said it takes an hour or so to get a skill point on your W/Mo, that would mean it should take 475 hours or so to get all of the skills in the game. How was my math off? Because I rounded it to 500 in the second sentance?

You aquire many skills through quests, and many skill points by leveling and doing missions.

While I agree it would take a long time to get all skills, I am not really after all skills